Friday, May 30, 2014

Larry Klayman v. Judicial Watch (Plus Orly Taitz!)


How's that for a hat trick?

Larry Klayman, the controversial attorney and founder of Judicial Watch, is suing his former public interest group over allegedly defamatory statements that somehow also allegedly involve birther attorney Orly Taitz!  (She's not a defendant.)

And it's all in front of sober, serious-minded Judge Altonaga, who granted sj on some claims but did find triable issues.

Grab some popcorn, kids, you'll want to be at this trial!

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Okay...serious scholarly question regarding the following sample from the order:

Klayman made the strategic decision to be held in contempt to permit him to raise issues on appeal. (See Def.’s SF ¶ 25; Pl.’s SF ¶ 25; Klayman Dep. 43:5–10).

Does the period at the end of the parenthetical cite to the record go outside (as it is in the order), or inside the parenthetical? (See e.g. bla bla bla.)

Godwhacker said...

The idiots are out!

Fake Internet Know-it-All said...

Whatever I say it should be.

Anonymous said...

To 11:49 -- yes, the period should be inside the parenthetical. But each person has his or her own style, and Judge Altonaga places the periods on the outside.

Anonymous said...

2:01 -

So the answer is that either way is correct?

Seriously, not trying to knock one of the best judges we have - just want to know - is there a preferred method?

Anonymous said...

If you're interested in this case, we have been chronicling it at the Fogbow web forum (which mostly focuses on exposing the birther movement) since it was first filed last year. http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=10743

You won't find any friends of Larry, Orly, or Judicial Watch there, but that thread has the whole story of the case, along with lots of lawyerly analysis done by real lawyers, and links to most of the documents filed.

Anonymous said...

Happy Friday SFL!!!

Anonymous said...

2:36 -- you should place the period on the inside of the mark, which is standard. My point was not to suggest that both are correct (in fact, you won't find any support in any style or usage guide for placing the period on the outside of the parentheses). My point, rather, was to state only that everyone has their own style for doing things.

That being said, there's no need to use parentheticals for record citations at all. Although the Bluebook permits enclosing record citations within parentheses, the principal way of citing record citations is not to use them. In my view, the less clutter, the better.

Anonymous said...

Pres. Obama was born in outer space, and his 12 tentacled socialist wife is going to come brainwash yur children in to gay marriage while giving you a Coca-Cola enema.

Anonymous said...

That is advice I can follow...losing parenthetical cites sounds good to me.

Godwhacker said...

@ 5:00

I've been to that party. It was a blast!

Anonymous said...

Periods go outside of parentheses unless the entire system is within parentheses.

Anonymous said...

Happy Friday/Weekend, SFL.