Monday, July 13, 2015

Ocala oKKKala


Racism isn't over, it's on full parade.
An estimated 2,000 vehicles, mostly motorcycles and trucks adorned with Confederate battle flags, took part in a rally and ride Sunday afternoon to support maintaining the flag flying in front of the McPherson Governmental Complex in Ocala.
The event was organized by David Stone of Ocala and was called the Florida Southern Pride Ride.  
Police officials estimated participation in the ride, which started about 1 p.m., at a couple of thousand vehicles. 
Participants were wearing shirts that said "heritage not hate" and talked of defending a way of life rooted in Southern traditions. 
Danny Hart of Dunnellon had two Confederate flags and the American flag in the back of his truck. He pointed out that the U.S. flag was flying higher and said he had come to participate in the ride to "defend freedom." 
Another ride participant, Rick Hart, said: "It's a history thing. The flag is also a military flag. It's not a race symbol." 
It's not a race symbol? The designer of that flag would be surprised to hear that!
"As a people we are fighting to maintain the heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior colored race. As a national emblem it (the Confederate flag) is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race."
~ William T. Thompson, designer of the confederate flag
And the Civil War was not about slavery? Why do so many people believe this bullshit? James W. Loewen has an answer to that.
History is the polemics of the victor, William F. Buckley once said. Not so in the United States, at least not regarding the Civil War. As soon as the Confederates laid down their arms, some picked up their pens and began to distort what they had done and why. The resulting mythology took hold of the nation a generation later and persists — which is why a presidential candidate can suggest, as Michele Bachmann did in 2011, that slavery was somehow pro-family and why the public, per the Pew Research Center, believes that the war was fought mainly over states’ rights.

The Confederates won with the pen (and the noose) what they could not win on the battlefield: the cause of white supremacy and the dominant understanding of what the war was all about. We are still digging ourselves out from under the misinformation they spread, which has manifested in our public monuments and our history books.
You know your society is going to hell when South Carolina has more sense

11 comments:

Literati said...

It always baffles me when even rather-intelligent persons maintain that the Civil War was not about slavery. It doesn't take all that much to debunk that nonsense. Just go read what South Carolina, Virginia, Georgia, and Texas wrote as their reasons for leaving the Union. The only reasons they give are (1) slavery and (2) the federal government's unwillingness to protect slavery or enforce the Fugitive Slave Act. I mean, these are primary sources written and officially sanctioned by the entities that left the Union. What else is there really left to say?

Godwhacker said...

Exactly Literati!

South Carolina was terribly pissed that when their slaves ran away the northern states would not return them. It wasn't enough for them to own slaves, they demanded that the north be complicit in the slavery. There are plenty of things for the south to be proud of. Waging war to maintain slavery is not one of them.

Shoot The Lawyers said...

History is properly defined as "one damn lie after another." No different here.
1. The war was not about slavery. It was about the spread of slavery. Big difference. Having the Western states become slave holding ones would have crippled the North's ability to do expand markets for its growing and diversified economy. To ascribe noble humanitarian motives to the North is almost laughable. Lincoln may have issued the Emancipation Proclamation and talked a good game once the blood spilled, but his comments about the natural inferiority of black people was a more accurate barometer of his racial attitudes. If the South had never insisted on making new States slave one, the Civil War would never have been fought.
2. The war was never that popular in the North. Witness the draft riots of the era and the speeches of many a Democratic officeholder.
3. The real tragedy of the war in racial terms was the aftermath of Reconstruction. The election of 1876 was won by Republicans only after they promised to remove all federal troops from the South and basically, allow those States to do whatever they damned please to black people, which included mostly murder and terrorism.
4. Going back to the flag. You are correct about what it stands for. But looking at the war and its aftermath 160 years later, you cannot draw a line across the Mason Dixon line and label one half evil and the other not.

Godwhacker said...

I'll give you 2 & 3 STL, but as to 1, the war was absolutely about slavery. To quote Confederate Commander John S. Mosby "I've never heard of any other cause than slavery." That's just one of the many many quotes that confirms the slavery/cause hypothesis. It was about slavery in the west. It was about the fugitive slave act, and it was about the threat to slavery in the south. All those things equal slavery.

As for 4, I don't think anyone is saying that all southerners are evil. I'm a southerner, born and raised in Florida. I even, according to family rumor, have some blood from Mr. Jefferson Davis himself. Racism is based off of the mistaken idea that bloodlines can tell you anything worth knowing about a person. They can't.

Anonymous said...

Who stole Godwhacker's computer and composed a reasonable, thought-out response to a commenter?

Godwhacker said...

I'm always reasonable when I'm not dealing with arse wipes.

Anonymous said...

All wars against white people are unpopular. That's why we limit most wars today to brown people.

Anonymous said...

This flaming truth telling blog.

NB. Only a CRAZY person would go to Ocala.

GB

Anonymous said...

Judge Chamberlain Haller: Mr. Gambini?
Vinny Gambini: Yes, sir?
Judge Chamberlain Haller: That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection.
Vinny Gambini: Thank you, Your Honor.
Judge Chamberlain Haller: [firm tone] Overruled.

Ground Zero Ocala said...

Supporters of flying the Confederate flag are ignorant of history. This a fine opportunity to address the many related issues. (Part 1)

Florida Lynched More Black People Per Capita Than Any Other State, according to the Broward Palm Beach New Times, February 11, 2015
http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/florida-lynched-more-black-people-per-capita-than-any-other-state-according-to-report-6470940

Marion County led Florida in the number of lynchings, according to University of Florida professor Jack Davis, a scholar of race relations in the South.
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20050903/DAYBREAK/50903003

Confederates committed treason by attacking Fort Sumter, and taking up arms against the United States. Death was then, and is now, the punishment for treason. See Treason Against the United States, Published January 25, 1861 in the New York Times. http://www.nytimes.com/1861/01/25/news/treason-against-the-united-states.html

Nathan Bedford Forrest (1821-1877) a lieutenant general in the Confederate Army during the American Civil War...served as the first Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan...Forrest was accused of war crimes at the Battle of Fort Pillow for allowing forces under his command to massacre hundreds of black Union Army and white Southern Unionist prisoners...Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Bedford_Forrest

There were over 100,000 U.S. Colored Troops available in 1865 to execute the surviving Confederate traitors, had President Lincoln entered such an executive order. If the Confederate traitors were all executed in 1865, the United States would have prospered far better, without the many obstacles to justice brought by Confederate traitors, such as the Ku Klux Klan, Jim Crow, lynching, peonage, and other crimes against humanity. African-Americans could have taken their rightful place in history, and rightly taken the land and property of the vanquished. Don’t forget that Confederate-traitor sympathizers assassinated President Lincoln as part of a conspiracy to decapitate the government of the United States in a bid to revive the Confederate cause. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Abraham_Lincoln

Ground Zero Ocala said...

This a fine opportunity to address the many related issues. (Part 2)

Some military service is NOT honorable. Some military service deserves condemnation: The Confederacy, and the Nazis come to mind. People of good will around the world have had enough of Confederates and their sympathizers. The tragedy in South Carolina was the spark to ignite long-smoldering contempt of Confederate war criminals and terrorists, and the KKK, for Crimes Against Humanity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimes_against_humanity

Lynching in America: Confronting the Legacy of Racial Terror documents EJI’s multi-year investigation into lynching in twelve Southern states during the period between Reconstruction and World War II. EJI researchers documented 3959 racial terror lynchings of African Americans in Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia between 1877 and 1950 – at least 700 more lynchings of black people in these states than previously reported in the most comprehensive work done on lynching to date. http://eji.org/lynchinginamerica/

EJI Report Summary: Lynching in America: Confronting the Legacy of Racial Terror.
http://www.eji.org/files/EJI%20Lynching%20in%20America%20SUMMARY.pdf

New York Times: History of Lynchings in the South Documents Nearly 4,000 Names.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/10/us/history-of-lynchings-in-the-south-documents-nearly-4000-names.html

Supplement Lynchings of African Americans by County, 30 lynchings in Marion County Florida http://www.eji.org/files/Lynching%20in%20America%20SUPPLEMENT%20By%20County.pdf

Marion County lynchings were public affairs, often carried out before hundreds of witnesses, but none of the perpetrators was prosecuted. Marion County mobs sometimes left a placard or a sign attached to the body of the victim; when Robert Larkin was lynched in 1893, the mob left a placard reading, "Done by 300 of the best citizens of this county." http://www.scribd.com/doc/257132766/

Without Sanctuary: Lynching Photography on America, James Allen, author https://youtu.be/dGrXCOIx6QQ

This a fine opportunity to address the many related issues. Don't let the opportunity pass unfettered.